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What if you were wrong and Christ is not the son of God?
What if you were wrong and Christ is not the son of God?
How do you know Jesus Christ is the son of God? Or God Himself?
More than one billion and a half of Christians in the world today believe he is. They even go further to identify Christ with God. Moreover, such identification goes to an extreme when Christ is God with the Holy Spirit Gabriel, all in one trinity.
What if Christians are wrong? What if Christ is not God or even the son of God? And, what if he was an ordinary man, only human, born to a human woman named Mary?
The whole idea of such belief depends totally on belief. No one single proof is provided by anyone, Christ or God, nor even Archangel Gabriel.
What proof, or evidence, or even an index that this is the case? Silence prevails among Christians. The whole belief-system in Christianity is founded only on what John, Matthew, Luke and Marc have written after the death of Christ. These writers, disciples of Christ, mention terms like, son of man, son of God, my father in heaven, who sees me has seen the father, all references are made to Christ.
If Christians are wrong and they have to appear before God on a Day of Judgment then they shall be in real trouble. If they discover that Christ is not the son of God nor he God Himself nor is there a trinity. If Christians discover on the day of reckoning that God is one and only, an All Mighty indivisible God, never is He begotten nor does he beget anyone, son, daughter or otherwise, then what surprise will they have? But it will be too late.
They shall have to enter hell fire to dwell forever. They shall be chastised for their blasphemy by being burnt eternally in a glazing fire.
If Christ is God, as Christians claim, and is born to a woman, accused by his servants of proclaiming the wrong religion, judged and sentenced to death, crucified by His subjects whom He has created.
What God is this? Born of a woman, undergoing childhood, growing into a man adult and worked as a carpenter to earn His living. Where was he before he decided to preach His own divine message? Thirty three years of God's life was spent on earth, why did He not reveal Himself to His creatures? Christ in the four Evangels never say that He is the creator of the universe.
If He was God would He not then announce His creation to Hi servants? Why should He hide Himself in the streets of Nazareth and Bait Lehim and thereabout and not reveal His clear identify? Why should Christ, if he was really the son of God ad God Himself, come at that point of man's history? Why not before? Or even after?
How can we with our proper minds believe in a human as God, or son of God? This is exactly like the Mythology of the ancient Greeks. They have believed in men and women descendants of gods, being thus semi-human and semi-gods. With the exception of Zeus, the father of all gods, all others were mixed hybrids between divinities and humans.
How can one in his proper senses believe in a God that is born to a woman, judged and put to death by His own creatures. This contradicts the real nature and description of God, proclaimed by the Torah and the Qur'an, should you believe in these books as Scriptures and not only the Gospel written down by four humans, where these Books mention God as an All Mighty Eternal, All creator, that has created the universe and life and death some twenty billions of years ago, if the big bang is true.
The Old Testament, as well as the Psalm of David and the Qur'anic text, believed by 1.5 billions of Muslims, inform us that God is an all mighty, eternal, creator of everything, that He begets none and is not begotten. That He is the creator of life and death and all its manifestations.
Then how can someone with some brains believe that God was born, tortured by some Roman drunkard soldiers and crucified on the cross, and oddly enough God could not have saved Himself from either the soldiers of Pilate nor from the tribunal of King Herod Antipas, while He is the creator of mankind?
If God wishes He would destroy Christ, his mother Mary, the entire Roman Empire at the time and the whole human race, wiping out the earth with a slight touch of His command. This is the God to be worshipped and not the god sent by some idiots to be crucified for cleansing human sin. He is the creator of human and the sin of human in order to test man. But how can one billion and a half of individuals believe in such a rubbish?
Christians only conjecture about the truth while the truth is evident to everyone, Christians and all other humans.
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In Judaism : Is putting the son to death if he beat his parent still applicable or has ever been done ?
And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.
Ex 21:15
There is a lot of discussion about this by the Rabbis in the Talud and various commentaries on the verse:
1) nobody was ever prosecuted under this law
2) it is practically impossible for someone to be guilty under this law. how so? A person under the age of 13 cannot be found guilty of a capital crime- therefore this law could only be applicable to someone over the age of 13 years and one day. However, over the age of 13 years and one day, the legal bond between child and parent is severed, meaning that the cild is no longer bund by this law (to rebel against something you have to be under its jurisdiction). In other words, it is not possible for someone to be guilty under this law!
The question then devolves to: if it is impossible for someone to be guilty under this law, why does the Torah include it? Probably the most easily understood explanation s from the Kli yakar (Shlomo Ephraim ben Aaron Luntschitz) who wrote the reason for this law being given is to illustrate how important the law of hoouring your parents is, as it acts as an mirror of our relationship to G-d. Also, the point is that Bnei Israel are meant to be a holy nation- thus even though a law may not be useable- if it will illustrate us how to live our lives in a holy fashion, we should be given it.
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In Bible versus Quran: There is a sin that leads to death
The Sons of the Lord God in Bible versus Quran (18)
This is the 18th article of the series:" The Sons of the Lord God in Bible versus Quran".
The Bible says: I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one that was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him. We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
The Noble Quran says that the Messiah, Jesus Christ, the son of Mary, was only a messenger sent to his people; and it is an unforgivable sin if you say or believe that the Almighty Creator has a son or sons; this major sin will lead to the Eternal Fire in the Hereafter. Also the Quran says that the whole worlds, not only this world, are under the control of Allah.
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The Sons of the Lord God in the Bible (18)
The Bible (1 John 5:13-21) says:
I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him. If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death. We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him. We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one. We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.
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1 John 5:13-21 in three different versions of the Bible:
New International Version
13I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life.
14This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us.
15And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.
16If anyone sees his brother commit a sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that.
17All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death.
18We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.
19We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one.
20We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true—even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
21Dear children, keep yourselves from idols.
American Standard Version
13 These things have I written unto you, that ye may know that ye have eternal life, even unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God.
14 And this is the boldness which we have toward him, that, if we ask anything according to his will, he heareth us:
15 and if we know that he heareth us whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions which we have asked of him.
16 If any man see his brother sinning a sin not unto death, he shall ask, and God will give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: not concerning this do I say that he should make request.
17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18 We know that whosoever is begotten of God sinneth not; but he that was begotten of God keepeth himself, and the evil one toucheth him not.
19 We know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in the evil one.
20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
21 My little children, guard yourselves from idols.
King James Version
13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
16If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
21Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
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The Sons of the Lord God in the Quran (18)
The Noble Quran makes the topic of the son(s) of God very clear and says that Allah, the Almighty Creator, has neither a son nor a partner.
In addition, The Quran makes the signs that Jesus was not god very understandable.
The Quran says: O mankind! The Messenger, Muhammad has now come to you with the truth from your Lord; and if you disbelieve in Allah, your disbelief will not harm Him
To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth, as possessions, creatures and servants, and such sovereignty is not compatible with the prophet-hood of Jesus. God suffices as a Guardian, a Witness to this.
The Quran decisively forbids saying that Allah has a son.
It is not befitting for the Majesty of Allah to take to Himself a son.
Allah is exalted, magnified; He is above what they associate with Him of son or partners. Allah is far transcendent above all that they ascribe unto Him!
In Islam, this point is very important faith wise.
- Again, it is unforgivable sin to say or to believe that the One Almighty Creator [who is Allah or God or the Lord or Jehovah or whatever name(s) you are giving Him] has a son or Sons.
From the Islamic point of view, the conclusion of this essential topic that may establish or destroy the faith is that:
Any one who believe that the Almighty Creator has a son or Sons; he messes up his faith and is considered as a disbeliever and in the afterlife he will end up as an eternal inhabitant of the hell.
Any one who believes that the Almighty Creator has no son or partner, he has a good faith and is considered as a believer; and in the afterlife, he will end up as an eternal inhabitant of the paradise.
Verses 4:170-171 of the Noble Quran make the topic of the son(s) of God plain, clear and understandable.
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The meanings of verse 4:170
O mankind! The Messenger, Muhammad has now come to you with the truth from your Lord; with the declaration of Allah's divine Oneness and the Quran from your Lord. Therefore believe) in Muhammad and the Quran so believe in him and seek what, it is better for you, than that which you are presently seeking.
And if you disbelieve, in Allah, Muhammad and the Quran, then surely to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth, as possessions, creatures and servants, and your disbelief will not harm Him; and Allah is ever Knowing of His creation; He is ever Knower of those who believe and those who do not. He is the Wise in what He does with them and in that He ordained that they should not worship other than Him.
The meanings of verse 4:171
O People of the Gospel, do not go to extremes, do not go beyond the bounds, do not exaggerate, do not be extreme in your religion and do not say about God except, the saying of, the truth, such as exalting Him above any associations with a partner or a son.
The Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word (that is "Be") which He conveyed unto Mary and through His word Jesus became a created being, (and a spirit from Him) and through His command, Jesus became a son without a father.
He [Jesus] is here attached to God, exalted be He, as an honoring for him, and not as you claim, that he is the son of God, or a god alongside Him, or one of three, because one that possesses a spirit is compound, while God transcends being compound and the attribution of compounds to Him.
- Refrain, from this and say what, it is better for you, to say, which the profession of Allah Oneness is.
Verily, God is but One God. Glory be to Him, transcending [the possibility], that He should have a son!
To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth, as possessions, creatures and servants, and such sovereignty is not compatible with the prophet-hood of Jesus. God suffices as a Guardian, a Witness to this.
In other words, the verse says, Allah is only One God without a son or partner. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that he should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth are His servants. And Allah is sufficient as Defender, as Lord of all created beings and He is witness of what He says about Jesus.
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Verses 4:170-171 of the Noble Quran in four different translations:
Verse 4:170
QARIB: o people, the messenger (prophet Muhammad) has come to you with the truth from your lord, so believe, it is better for you. if you disbelieve, to Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. and Allah is the knower, the wise.
SHAKIR: o people! surely the messenger has come to you with the truth from your lord, therefore believe, (it shall be) good for you and if you disbelieve, then surely whatever is in the heavens and the earth is Allah's; and Allah is knowing, wise
PICKTHAL: o mankind! the messenger hath come unto you with the truth from your lord. therefor believe; (it is) better for you. but if ye disbelieve, still, lo! unto Allah belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth. Allah is ever knower, wise.
YUSUFALI: o mankind! the messenger hath come to you in truth from Allah: believe in him: it is best for you. but if ye reject faith, to Allah belong all things in the heavens and on earth: and Allah is all-knowing, all-wise.
Verse 4:171
QARIB: people of the book, do not exaggerate your religion. Do not say about Allah except the truth. Indeed, the messiah, Jesus son of Mary, is only a messenger (and prophet) of Allah, and his word (be) which he gave to Mary, and a (created) spirit by him. So believe in Allah and his messengers and do not say: 'trinity. 'Refrain, it is better for you. Allah is only one god. Exaltations to him that he should have son! To him belongs all that is in the heavens and in the earth, it is sufficient that Allah is the guardian.
SHAKIR: o followers of the book! do not exceed the limits in your religion, and do not speak (lies) against Allah, but (speak) the truth; the messiah, Isa son of Marium is only a messenger of Allah and his word which he communicated to Marium and a spirit from him; believe therefore in Allah and his messengers, and say not, three. desist, it is better for you; Allah is only one Allah; far be it from his glory that he should have a son, whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth is his, and Allah is sufficient for a protector
PICKTHAL: o people of the scripture! do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. the messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and his word which he conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from him. So believe in Allah and his messengers, and say not "three" - cease! (it is) better for you! - Allah is only one Allah. Far is it removed from his transcendent majesty that he should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as defender.
YUSUFALI: o people of the book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of Allah aught but the truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) a messenger of Allah, and his word, which he bestowed on Mary, and a spirit proceeding from him: so believe in Allah and his messengers. Say not "trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: glory be to him: (far exalted is he) above having a son. to him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as a disposer of affairs.
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Back to my question to the smart and interested reader:
Is the Quran quoted from the Bible?
About the Author
Professor Dr. Ibrahim Khalil
Prof. of Clinical and Chemical Pathology,
Head of Clinical Microbiology and Infection Control Unit,
Ain-Shams University.
Cairo, Egypt.
And,
President of The Egyptian Society of Inventors.
Member of the Egyption union of Writers
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